A
record
and
very
diverse turnout,
a
delightfully
sunny
Spring
day,
a
worthy
cause,
great
food and
some
of
those
well-honed
organisational
skills were
just
some
of
the
ingredients
that
helped
make
this
year's CresWalk
2014
the
success
it
was.
Ms
Susan
Al-Maani
was
presented
with
this
year's
Haji
Ebrahim
Patel/Crescents
of
Brisbane
Special
Achievement
Award.
Millions of
Syrians and
Palestinians
are soon to
be at the
mercy of the
ice cold
temperatures
in the
coming
months. Many
will face
the deadly
chill
without warm
clothes,
others
without
blankets,
and some
will brave
subzero
temperatures
without even
a place to
sleep.
The Brisbane
Muslim
community
have come
together to
pack and
ship a 40ft
container of
winter
clothing and
blankets for
distributions
in Jordan
(Syrian
refugees) as
well as
Gaza.
Donations
can be
dropped off
251 Compton
Road,
Karawatha.
This is the
last week
for
collections
until 20th
September.
The state's
Muslim
community
has the
"full and
total
support" of
Premier
Campbell
Newman, who
has urged
Queenslanders
to focus on
"people who
do the wrong
thing" and
not a
religion.
Speaking to
Fairfax
Radio 4BC
Mornings
following a
raid on an
Islamic
store in
Logan and
the
subsequent
arrest of
two men on
terrorism-related
offences
overnight,
Mr Newman
urged
Queenslanders
to look at
their
alleged
activities
and not
religion.
"This is
about the
activities
of some
individuals,"
he said.
"It is
alleged they
have been
involved in
criminal
activities
to raise
money and to
encourage
people to go
and fight
overseas and
that is
basically,
if it is
proven,
against
Australian
law.
"We are not
dealing with
a religion
here, it is
about people
who happen
to be using
a religious
angle on
this whole
thing, to
try and do
that. That
is
completely
inappropriate.
"The Muslim
community in
this state
have my full
and total
support. I
know many
leaders of
the Muslim
community,
they are
fine people,
they have
come here
from across
the world
because they
share our
values, they
see that
Australia is
a great
place of
opportunity
for their
children,
they are
business
people, they
run
non-government
organisations,
they have
made great
contributions
to the
wellbeing of
this state."
Mr Newman
said the
Muslim
community
had played a
vital role
in the
foundation
of
Queensland a
century and
a half ago.
"We are just
over 150
years old
since we
became a
separate
colony from
NSW and from
the very
beginning
there have
been Muslim
people,
Muslim
communities
in this
state and
they have
all made a
great
contribution
to building
this state,"
he said.
Mr Newman
said the
charges were
related to
"the war in
Syria and
the things,
the
terrible,
terrible
things that
are going on
over there"
and had
"nothing" to
do with the
G20.
"Let us
focus on
people who
do the wrong
thing," he
said.
"Let us
focus on
people who
do the
community
ill, who are
just as bad
as any other
criminal
group and
let's not do
anything
other than
support the
great
majority of
people who
just want to
live in
harmony and
happiness
with the
rest of us."
In response
to the
statements
above, a
number of
Muslim
organizations
in
Queensland
sent a
joint letter
to the
Premier
acknowledging
his support
for the
community.
ANIC would
like once
again to
express its
concerns
about the
new
anti-terror
proposals.
All the
proposals
are of
serious
concern, but
the
following
two are of
particular
concern and
must be
opposed:
1. Named
Person
Warrants:
At the
moment ASIO
has to apply
for a
separate
warrant for
each
activity it
wishes to
engage in.
The current
proposal
would enable
ASIO to seek
one warrant
specifying a
number of
powers
against an
identified
person.
Condensing
multiple
powers into
a single
warrant
sidesteps
the concern
that the
greater the
incursion
into
privacy, the
greater
threshold
there ought
to be. For
example, the
installation
of
surveillance
cameras in a
private
dwelling
would be a
far greater
incursion
into a
person’s
privacy than
a tracking
device on
their
vehicle, and
should be
considered
separately
for this
reason.
2.
Broadened
ASIO Optical
Surveillance
Powers:
ASIO will
have the
power to
obtain a
warrant to
place a
video camera
inside the
home of
anyone who
is “likely
to be
engaged in
activities
prejudicial
to
security.”
The
definition
of “likely”
is extremely
broad and
lowers the
threshold
significantly.
This power
will allow
for a
significant
invasion of
privacy. The
homes of
Australians
will no
longer be
their
private
domains. In
addition,
ASIO, unlike
law
enforcement
agencies is
free from
the scrutiny
and review
of the
judicial
process.
ANIC calls
on all
concerned
Australians
to contact
their
federal
member of
parliament
to voice
their strong
opposition
to these
draconian
proposals.
You can call
or write to
your federal
member. You
can also
request to
discuss the
matter with
your federal
member in
person. The
two points
above should
be included
in your
communications.
Non-government
organisations
(NGOs) must
also join
this
campaign to
protect the
rights and
freedoms of
Australian
citizens.
The
government
is trying to
rush these
proposals
through
parliament
so your
action is
urgent.
ANIC also
calls on all
Imams around
Australia to
raise this
matter
tomorrow in
their Friday
sermons.
These
proposals
will affect
the privacy
of all
Australians
and must be
opposed.
A senior
delegation
of Muslim
and
Christian
religious
leaders
visited
Chaldean
Arch Bishop
Gabriel
Kassab to
express
their
compassion
for the
Christians
and other
indigenous
communities
being
persecuted
in Iraq.
The clergy
have issued
the
following
statement:
1. We
condemn
the
oppression
and
forced
expulsion
of the
Christian,
Yazidi
and
other
minority
communities
from
their
homes
and
homelands.
2. We
denounce
all
forms of
violence,
sectarian
discrimination
and
terrorism,
especially
in Iraq
and the
Middle
East, as
these
acts
undermine
the
peaceful
co-existence
of the
diverse
religious
and
ethnic
communities
in the
Middle
East.
3. We
stand in
solidarity
with the
displaced
families
in the
region
who have
every
right to
live
free
from
fear,
and we
pledge
any
support
that
eases
their
hardship.
4. We
uphold
the
safety
of our
homeland
Australia
and
Australian
people,
with our
cultural
and
religious
diversity,
as this
is an
integral
part of
our
divine
teachings.
5. We
affirm
our
commitment
to
continue
this
solidarity
and
maintain
open
lines of
communication
with
each
other
and with
the
Australian
government.
The
signatories
are:
1. Dr.
Ibrahim Abu
Mohammad,
Grand Mufti
of
Australia.
2. Arch
Bishop
Gabriel
Kassab, head
of the
Chaldean and
Assyrian
Catholic
community in
Australia
and New
Zealand.
3. Bishop
Robert
Rabat, head
of the
Melkite
Catholic
Church in
Australia
and New
Zealand.
3. Bishop
Antoine
Cherbel-Tarbay,
head of the
Maronite
Diocese in
Australia.
4. Sheikh
Yusuf Nabha,
Al Rahman
mosque Imam.
5. Sheikh
Malek Zeidan,
Lebanon
Fatwa
Council.
6. Sheikh
Khaled Taleb
Amin, NSW
secretary to
Australian
National
Imams
Council and
representative
of the
Lebanon
Fatwa
Council in
Western
Sydney.
7. Father
Paul Menika,
Chaldean
community
Samira El Khafir, 2013 MasterChef contestant, launched her first cookbook, entitled Eat With Love: Modern Middle Eastern, during the week at the Islamic Museum of Australia.
MasterChef judge, Matt Preston, was present at the launch as were fellow MasterChefs
Minister for
Aboriginal,
Torres
Strait
Islander and
Multicutural
Affairs and
Minister
Assisting
the Premier,
Glen Elmes
MP signs the
We'll love
Muslims 100
Years
petition at
his office
in
Parliament
House
watched on
by (left
to right)
Mr Fahim
Khondiker,
Imam Imraan
Hussain
(Council of
Imams QLD),
Ms Kelsie
Bain
(Welcome to
Australia)
and Dr
Mustafa Ally
(CCN)
Allah sent
the Chief of
Angels,
Gabriel, to
convey the
greetings of
the Almighty
to Khadeejah,
the wife of
the Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh)
and to give
her news of
a gift from
Allah, a
house in
Paradise!
How many of
us have an
angel bring
greetings of
the Lord of
the
Universe!
Khadeejah (r.a)
did as it
highlights
so
beautifully
in this
video.
Discover the
greatness of
Khadeejah
and others
in this
special
inspiring
weekend long
Islamic
course, Women
Companions
of the
Prophet (pbuh) -
Their Lives,
Inspiration
& Legacy.
A meeting
between
Muslim
community
leaders, the
Attorney-General
Senator the
Hon George
Brandis QC,
Parliamentary
Secretary to
the Minister
for Social
Services
Senator the
Hon Concetta
Fierravanti-Wells
and senior
government
officials
has been
scheduled
for
Wednesday to
discuss the
security
measures
announced by
the Prime
Minister on
Friday.
Alhamdulillah,
over 700
people
attended the
Gaza
fundraiser
last
Saturday
night at the
Islamic
College of
Brisbane (ICB).
The
programme
began with a
beautiful
Qiraat by
Imam Aslam
followed by
outstanding
performances
by ICB
students.
Thereafter,
Imam Abu
Ghazaleh
enlightened
the crowd
with a
remarkable
nasheed and
a short
talk,
followed by
motivational
speeches by
Sheikh
Burhaan
Methar and
David Forde.
Emotional
documentaries
depicting
the current
crisis in
Gaza were
shown along
with
exquisite
food served
directly to
the tables,
all of which
made it an
event not to
be missed.
Tables were
candle lit
during the
speeches so
as to
experience
the feeling
of our
brothers and
sisters
suffering in
Palestine.
The
programme
also
included an
intriguing
and
emotional
live skype
session with
an Al-Imdaad
worker and
orphans in
Gaza. The
orphans who
lost their
parents just
a few weeks
ago were so
calm and
resilient,
and recited
a few
couplets of
poetry.
Their words
were so
motivational
and truly
echoed the
message of
hope.
Nevertheless,
the
programme
ended with
an auction
wherein
Brother
Hussin Goss
did a
sterling job
with his
tactful
auctioning
skills
mashallah.
Jazakumullahu
Khayran to
everyone who
put in the
effort to
make this
event
successful.
It was an
event that
truly
demonstrated
the oneness
and strength
we have when
we are
united as a
community.
May Allah
Taala reward
our generous
community.
We are glad
to announce
that the
funds raised
for this
cause was
over 100 000
dollars and
we are still
receiving
more funds
every day.
We intend to
build a
water plant
in Gaza and
to buy our
own water
tank truck.
May Allah
reward you
all well for
participating
in this
great
ongoing
sadaqah.
REV The Hon Fred Nile is at it again. Attacking the
Islamic Community but more so the freedom of women
to wear what they choose, via his Full-Face
Coverings Prohibition Bill 2014.
Today he moved it and delivered his second reading
speech speaking of Islam and Islamic terrorism.
This Bill is proposed to be debated within the next
five calendar days. I therefore urge you to write to
me and all members of this parliament expressing
your views in response to the Bill as attached.
(Rev Nile's speech introducing the Bill is
attached here.)
Yours faithfully Shaoquett
The Hon. Shaoquett
Moselmane MLC.
Level 11, Room 1116.
Parliament of New South Wales
Parliament House
Macquarie St, Sydney NSW 2000 Australia
We, the members of the Muslim Organisation of the
Sunshine Coast (MoSC est. 2006) would like to take
this opportunity to introduce our self as
representatives of the Muslim community on Sunshine
Coast.
The Muslim community of the Sunshine Coast is
currently very limited in its accessibility to an
Islamic Centre/Mosque/ Home. Apart from our rented
facility, Muslims of this area are forced to travel
60 – 90km in order to conduct their Jummah Salah or
Eid functions.
Currently a room at the Kawana Family Centre is
rented on semi‐permanent bases for us to perform
simple things such as the obligatory Jummah Salah.
In order to celebrate Eid prayer or hold Taraweeh
Salah during Ramadan MOSC rents the Hall/Outdoor
area of the community Centre. As this is a subject
to availability, these functions are occasionally
double booked so that other functions (e.g birthday
parties with high volume music and alcoholic drinks)
are likely to take place in the next room.
This urged us to look for a place of our own.
After a long search we finally found a suitable
place on the market in the heart of Maroochydore (14
Church Street Maroochydore Qld. 4558), we already
paid the deposit (AUS $59,000) and our settlement
date is 30th October 2014.
We reached out and were able to collect up to AUS $
200,000 from our members alone, Alhamdulillah! Yet
our shortfall is approx AUS $ 500,000; therefore we
would like to kindly ask for your support when
trying to accomplish this goal for the sake of Allah
(swt).
We would like to humbly ask you to spread this
letter along with our contact details (listed below)
among your community in order for us to fulfil our
duty to Allah (swt) in order to build our very own
Islamic Centre.
Our bank details are:
National Australian Bank
A/C Name: MOSC Charitable Trust
A/C Number: 165 777 870
BSB: 084 – 801
Swift Code: NATAAU3303M
For our PayPal option and further information please
visit www.mosc.org.au
Moeen Ali Interview: 'I Am
A Muslim, Yes, But I Am Also Very English'
In an exclusive and very
personal interview, the new star of England
cricket, Moeen Ali, talks to Mehdi Hasan
about sport, faith and being British.
"I do let people touch it."
Moeen Ali is not just referring to but
stroking – what else? – his glorious beard.
The England cricketer grabbed the headlines
over the summer, on both the front and the
back pages, for his dazzling performances
against India and Sri Lanka - and, also, for
his striking visage.
England fans have dubbed him 'The Beard
That's Feared', a slogan that has inspired
both T-shirts and Twitter hashtags.
Newspapers such as the Mail and the
Independent have compared Ali to the
bearded, Victorian-era cricket legend WG
Grace.
"Let’s be honest, it’s hard to take the eyes
off that long, lustrous beard," noted a
recent profile of Ali in the Sunday Times.
Writing in the Independent, columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown referred to the cricketer’s
"Taliban beard".
Does the focus on his facial hair bother
Ali? "It doesn’t bother me too much, to be
honest with you," he says. "Some of the
stuff is quite funny. People have their
opinions about everything. I've been called
worse."
Indeed he has. Some commenters on BBC
Sport’s Facebook page in February, for
example, responded to Ali’s England team
call-up by mocking the Birmingham-born
all-rounder as "Bin Laden".
Ali sees his beard, which he first grew at
the age of 18, as an "identity thing". Is he
then, in his own way, trying to rebrand the
big Muslim beard? Perhaps, as the beard that
should not be feared? "Yeah, definitely.
That’s whole beauty of it. If I can play,
and change the mind of one person about
being a Muslim player and having a beard,
then I'll feel as if I've done my job."
I meet Ali in the lobby of a plush hotel
near London’s Tower Hill, a few days after
England’s recent Test Series victory over
India. The 27-year-old cricketer looks
relaxed and rested in a maroon hoodie and
grey tracksuit bottoms.
I have to lean forward in my seat to hear
his answers to my questions. To call Ali
soft-spoken would be an understatement. He
talks quietly, slowly and deliberately;
carefully thinking through each statement,
each answer.
Cricket is his life. It always has been and,
he suggests, always will be. Encouraged by
his sport-obsessed father and uncle -
Pakistani-born twin brothers who married
twin sisters - the young Moeen played and
practised daily in his back garden, which
was soon converted into a training ground.
"We had a big cabbage patch and we put a net
down [over it].. and me and my brothers
trained there and that’s how we learned our
cricket."
Ali is the third of four children - he has
two brothers, one younger and one older, and
an elder sister. His brothers, Kadeer and
Omar, have played for Worcestershire and
Herefordshire while two of his cousins,
Kabir and Aatif, have also played cricket
for county teams. (Kabir, according to
CricInfo's George Dobell, "had a cricket
ball placed in his cot the day he was
born").
Is cricket in his family's DNA? "I dunno. My
dad absolutely loves cricket and [so did]
his brother."
Don’t most Pakistani fathers love love
cricket? "My dad is very different to other
Pakistani dads," he responds. "It was almost
like he knew we were going to play
[professionally] and he committed 100% to
the cause, which I feel a lot of British
Asian parents, when they see their child is
a good player, they don’t push him as much
as my dad did. My dad sacrificed everything
he had [for us]."
A trained psychiatric nurse, Munir Ali quit
his job to start coaching his kids full
time. Today, he runs an academy called MA
Cricket in the Sparkhill area of Birmingham,
where Moeen grew up.
Was there any other career path he would
have considered? "No. From nine, I started
playing cricket. From 11, I knew this is
what I’m doing."
What about his 11-month-old son Abu Bakr
(who Ali named after the first Muslim
caliph? "My wife wants him to be an ‘aalim’
[religious scholar] and so do I, to be
honest. But I’m obviously going to let him
play cricket and enjoy it."
Cricket, explains Ali, "means so much to me.
I started as a professional at 15 and I feel
I've learned a lot more through cricket than
others have [learned] outside of cricket. It
teaches you a lot about life and staying
grounded. If you think you’re on top of the
world it can bring you back down."
VATICAN: Pope Francis
will visit Istanbul in November, his first
trip to a predominantly Muslim nation.
The Vatican said yesterday
that the Pope is expected to mark an
important Orthodox feast day on 30 November
with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, the
spiritual leader of the world's Orthodox
Christians.
Perhaps more importantly, the trip will give
Francis the chance to visit a Muslim nation
— and speak to the Muslim world — at a time
when Christians are being targeted by the
Islamic State group in Iraq.
A common plea for peace by Francis and
Bartholomew would show a united Christian
front against the militant onslaught.
Francis has said military force was
legitimate to stop the militants, but has
said it was for the international community
to decide how to go about it.
Francis had wanted to visit Kurdistan to
show solidarity with the Christians forced
to flee their homes. In the end, it wasn't
possible and Francis instead sent a personal
envoy.
Confirmation of the trip came as the United
States sought to press Turkey to better seal
its borders to prevent fighters and funding
from flowing to the Islamic State militants.
UK: Catholic Cardinal
Theodore McCarrick offered Islamic religious
phrases and insisted that Islam shares
foundational rules with Christianity, during
a Sept. 10 press conference in D.C.
“In the name of God, the Merciful and
Compassionate,” McCarrick said as he
introduced himself to the audience at a
meeting arranged by the Muslim Public
Affairs Council. That praise of the Islamic
deity is an important phrase in Islam, is
found more than 100 times in the Koran, and
is akin to the Catholic prayer, ”In the name
of the Father, and of the Son, and of the
Holy Spirit.”
McCarrick next claimed that “Catholic social
teaching is based on the dignity of the
human person… [and] as you study the holy
Koran, as you study Islam, basically, this
is what Muhammad the prophet, peace be upon
him, has been teaching.”
McCarrick was 71 when 19 Muslims brought
Islam to the public eye by murdering 3,000
Americans on 9/11. He is one of the 213
Cardinals of the Catholic church, but is too
old to vote in church debates.
“Either the cardinal has studied the whole
thing and does not know what he’s talking
about, or he is making a somewhat misleading
statement,” said Michael Meunier, head of
the U.S. Copts Association. “The practice of
the Muslim majority people that adhere to
the Koran… have proven that [claim of
equivalence] is not correct,” he told The
Daily Caller during a Sept. 11 trip to
Jordan.
“Has Cardinal McCarrick converted to Islam?”
asked a scornful critic, Robert Spencer, the
best-selling author of many books on Islam.
“‘Peace be upon him’ is a phrase Muslims
utter after they say the name of [their
reputed] prophet… [so] probably he is
unaware of the unintended Islamic confession
of faith he has just made,” said Spencer,
who runs the Jihadwatch.org website.
McCarrick is wrong to say “that Islam
teaches the dignity of every human person,“
Spencer said. “Actually it teaches a sharp
dichotomy between the Muslims, [who are
called] ‘the best of people’ and the
unbelievers [are called] ‘the most vile of
created beings,’” Spencer told TheDC.
Born into the factious world of
war-torn Arabia, Muhammad’s life is a gripping and inspiring
story of one man’s tireless fight for unity and peace.
In a world where greed and
injustice ruled, Muhammad created change by affecting hearts
and minds.
Just as the story of Jesus
embodies the message of Christianity, Muhammad’s life
reveals the core of Islam.
Deepak Chopra shares the life of
Muhammad as never before, putting his teachings in a new
light.
Following the historical record
but offering a unique perspective, Chopra shows us why his
teachings are more important now than ever before.
Shelfari Reviewer: Many times
i see many people criticizing Muhammad (SAWS), So i wanted
to learn more about this man name Muhammad and how his like
was like. Let me begin by first saying that this book is
nothing like i thought it would be. It is much better. This
is because the author doesn't present it in a straight
forward way like saying the Mohammed did this and this and
this in such year. IT represents the book like a story will
real characters and facts. Deepak chopra is truly able to
immerse us into the world of Muhammad as well as helps us
understand about Islam. Through out this book there is many
vivid emotions and is like a movie playing in your head.
form the time of Muhammads birth to his death it shows a
great story. I think anyone who is interested in religion
should read this book. Or anyone that just is curious about
the prophet Muhammad.
Would you like
to see the cover of your favourite book on our book shelves
below?
Using the book club you
can see what books fellow CCN readers have on their
shelves, what they are reading and even what they,
and others, think of them.
KB says: If you're
looking for an alternative to popcorn during a
movie - then this a another easy to make treat
that could work as a starter to a BBQ or dinner
as well.
Nachos
Ingredients
1 packet of Doritos,
a flavour of your choice
1 onion finely chopped
1 tomato seeded and chopped
1 tin red beans drained
1-2 chillies thinly sliced
Grated cheese
Sour cream
1 avocado
Juice of half a lemon
˝ tsp crushed garlic
Pinch of salt
Method
1. Blend avocado
with lemon juice, garlic and salt.
2. Mix together onions, beans, tomato and
chillies.
3. Arrange alternate layers of Doritos and onion
and bean mixture in an oven proof casserole.
4. Top with cheese and heat through, approx. 5
mins.
5. Remove from oven and serve with dollops of
sour cream and avocado mix.
Q: Dear Kareema, I’ve been
doing cardio training for a while now but can’t
seem to shift all the weight I need to lose. Is
there anything else I can do to speed up the
process or help me to achieve my weight loss
goals?
A: Doing cardio alone will get you some
results, but if you incorporate weight training
into your routine, you’ll burn kilojoules a
whole lot faster – even a few hours after you’ve
stopped working out.
The body uses muscle to burn fat,
so if you focus on building muscle through a
strength training program, you’ll soon burn the
fat.
Mixing up your routine is
important too so the body doesn’t plateau and
muscles are constantly challenged.
Mula Nasruudin's boys had been up in the attic together
helping with some cleaning.
The kids uncovered an old manual typewriter and asked
their father, "Father, what's this?"
"Oh, that's an old typewriter," he answered, thinking
that would satisfy their curiosity.
"Well, what does it do?" they queried.
"I'll show you," their father said.
He went downstairs and returned with a blank piece of
paper. He rolled the paper into the typewriter and began
striking the keys, leaving black letters of print on the
page.
"WOW!" the boys exclaimed, "That's really cool -- but
how does it work like that? Where do you plug it in?"
"There is no plug," he answered. "It doesn't need a
plug."
"Then where do you put the batteries?" they persisted.
"It doesn't need batteries either," he continued.
"Wow! This is so cool!" the brothers exclaimed. "Someone
should have invented this a long time ago!"
Say "Come,
I will rehearse what Allah
has (really) prohibited you
from": join not anything as
equal with Him; be good to
your parents; kill not your
children on a plea of want;
- We provide sustenance for
you and for them; - do not
come near shameful deeds,
whether open or secret; take
not life, which Allah has
made sacred, except by way
of justice and law: thus
does He command you, that
you may learn wisdom.
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2. The Islamic date changes to the next day starting in
the evenings after maghrib. Therefore, exceptfor Lailatul
Mehraj,
Lailatul Bhahraat
and
Lailatul Qadr – these dates refer to the commencement of the event
starting in the evening of the corresponding day.
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